# Enabling Drone as a First Responder for High-Value Residential Communities

- Event: NestGen ’26
- Published: October 2, 2026
- Length: 36:46
- Watch: https://nestgen.org/library/watch/VPf7YX0fDvQ/

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## About this session

Public safety and security teams face growing expectations to respond faster and with better situational awareness, particularly in communities where residents and assets call for a higher standard of protection. Drone as a First Responder programs are becoming part of how these teams get eyes on an incident before ground units arrive.

In this NestGen session, Unmanned Vehicle Technologies (UVT) will share how Drone as a First Responder is being enabled for high-value residential communities, and what security and public safety leaders should think through when bringing drone response into private residential environments.

## Transcript

**[0:00]** Hello everyone. Uh I'm Sel. I'm product manager at FlytBase. And uh today we have Chris from UT with us. Uh a little bit background about Chris. So Chris is the director of remote operations at UT where he works with organizations deploying and scaling remote and autonomous drone programs. With nearly two decades in technology and more than five years working closely with public safety teams, his experience sits at the intersection of field operations, drone technology and the infrastructure required to make these programs reliable at scale. His work has since extended into autonomous programs around uh high value residential environments but he has a wide uh wide range of experience. He has he has had experience with fire incidents with search and rescues. He search and rescues in every possible terrain. So yeah uh today we are going to draw out on all all that journey. We are going to draw out on all that experience and we are going to understand what has worked, what

**[1:01]** has not worked and what uh and what learnings can we take from here so that we can make the drone industry better going forward for DFR and security use cases. So hello hello Chris um welcome to the NestGen uh forum. Hello, thank you for having me. >> Okay, so a couple of housekeeping rules. Um, first this uh session is going to be in a fireside chat format. Uh, I have some questions prepared. I'll be asking those. I'm pretty sure you would also have a lot of questions. So, just drop them in the Q&A and we'll have a dedicated section where we'll be uh where we'll where where we can ask your questions and Chris can answer them. So yeah. Okay. So let's get started. Okay. So uh Chris, you have used drones for across several major fire incidents. You have had from large apartment fires and uh to um like to incidents in very high

**[2:04]** windy uh environment. So looking across all that experience um where do you think drones provided the most value? Uh yeah, where do you think the drones provide the most value? >> So, you know, on the fire side, there are so many different places that that they provide value. Um that, you know, overall the number one is is going to be, you know, having a thermal drone, you know, being able to see where hot spots are in a fire and being able to, you know, help guide the the the firemen there into to where, you know, they should be dedicating resources or or, you know, putting the, you know, uh water lines and things like that. So it gives you insight as to the whole picture, you know, as to, you know, prior to that it was just what what can the firemen and and the the first responders see, you know, physically through their masks when they get on the scene. >> So um apart from situational awareness, um what were the other major learnings? I mean I'm pretty sure just taking a drone there would not have been the end of the

**[3:06]** story. There must have been a lot. I mean there are many challenges that we run into. You know you've got weather, you've got rain. Particularly with this incident here, it started to rain. So, you know, we were thankfully the rain is there it overall it helps in a fire situation, but you know to have to keep charging the drone and try to keep everything outside in the weather is definitely a challenge. So having a spot kind of dedicated to where you can charge things, have a tent resources, you know, where you can keep that equipment. um you know, but two, then you've got to keep it all out of the way so that you're not interfering with the with the uh you know, what the firemen and the first responders are doing there on scene. >> Okay. Um any um assumptions, any prior assumptions that you had had? Uh let's let's uh take your memory back to your first fire incident. Um any like learnings like anything that you had in mind then which changed completely after going through that experience? Um, you know, overall, you know, when when when you see a fire in

**[4:06]** general, you know, it it looks bad, but when you get a drone above it and you see how it's tearing things apart and how it's spreading and and then the wind is starting to push it into neighboring buildings and trees and and all of that, it's I mean, it opened my eyes and and just made me uh appreciate our first responders even more than I did before, which I didn't, you know, really realize was a thing. But I mean, for for those guys to go in there and do what they do essentially blind, you know, any any resource that we can give them to give them a little bit of a glimpse as to what they're walking into, anything that can help them, you know, cuz our number one priority at the end of the day is is making sure our our heroes get home safely. that that I mean even I will not be able to understand it properly but yeah I mean I anything any any small bit of situational awareness would make a large difference for those guys. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So across these incidents there were there were often multiple teams and

**[5:11]** injured scenes involved at time right. Uh there would have been firemen of course but there would also have been ambulances. uh your police police uh police department uh etc. So I'm pretty sure that all of them would have been relying on you to give to give them the situational awareness that they all can't see. So how was the coordination there? How like I'm pretty sure it was not easy. So what was that what were the biggest challenges you faced there and how did you tackle those? the the biggest challenges are are I I guess trying to triage and prioritize what to do, you know, so you've got, you know, for a fire like this, you've got more than one agency there. You know, we've got neighboring agencies, so there's two or three different agencies on scene. There's there's there's chiefs that are there. There's, you know, you've got police that are there, ambulances are staging for for all kinds of things. So, um, and then you've got roads closed. So you've got state police and sheriffs and and local police, you know, blocking roads and and it gets kind of

**[6:11]** backed up. So the drone kind of helps in multiple different ways. One, it can it can help see things like the thermal, where the hot spots are and all of that. But then at the same time, it can help the police with with um you know, traffic, you know, where is it getting backed up and and can we move things and can we flow in a different route? and you know and that works directly into the public safety side of things where you know the the the police side is is traffic management and large crowds and things like that. You get you get a lot of people who come out and look at these things and and you know you've got you know kids and animals running around and all of that. So, the drones give you awareness of everything that's going on, a whole picture, you know, is is there somebody out in the woods, you know, was this something that could have potentially been arson? Is, you know, do we see people moving and and getting away and things like that? So, you know, it's it's things that I didn't necessarily think about. You know, you know, I think about a fire and and it's a fire and and you know, the the the [snorts] public safety uh they're

**[7:11]** they're looking at, you know, afterwards what caused it, how did it start? And and that's where drones have have come in key, too. So, you know, we've I've used smaller drones to um investigate what could have would could have caused a fire in a building. Um you know, we couldn't get up in there. It was in between rafters and up above the attic and stuff. And so, we were able to fly the drone in there and and find a spot where an an old, you know, outlet or something up in the attic somewhere had had sparked and caught on fire up in there. So we were able to trace the fire with a drone to you know somewhere where we couldn't get to you know just by climbing through there. >> I mean that that is really uh the one of the most unique experiences I have heard. I have never heard using a drone to find the cause of a fire inside a a building. So uh which which makes me wonder Chris I mean there is there the one on one hand you are using drone to find the cause on another hand you are using drone to find the extent of the fire and provide situational awareness to the fire uh fire

**[8:14]** department then on the third hand you are help also helping the police to direct the flow of the traffic to help any to enure that no pedestrian come into the restricted area and cause chaos. I mean that's a lot of coordination that's a lot of drones. How do you manage all that? >> Well, I I mean, number one is is I'm mostly there focusing on the drones because, you know, as as the drone operator, my number one priority is is the drone and the safety of the drone and how it's operating. So, I'm usually, you know, working directly with the command staff on the scene. You know, for large things like this, we're going to have county fire agencies come in, but then our our chiefs are there and and you you get lieutenants and captains from from different agencies and and they stage kind of an a tent. So we have a command center for things like this where where we try to all operate from. So they're watching what I'm doing and and asking questions and asking to see different things and you know depending on the extent we might have more than one drone pilot there where you know we could be focusing on the fire side of things and we've got another uh pilot

**[9:17]** focusing on traffic control you know but we're all in the same area working together. So, um, it's it's a lot of communal work, you know? I mean, for something like this, it's it's kind of hard to explain how it works because when you get into an incident like this, everybody just kind of clicks. You kind of you know what you need to do. You get into a rhythm. You work with your guys and and all of that. So, it's it's really it's it's uh it's the team effort. So it it's not too hard and too much to manage because you've got you've got a large team there that you're a part of to to you know um keep watch over everything from and everybody's thinking of different things from different angles. >> Um so uh how do you generally communicate with the ground team? Uh is it via normal call? Do you have walkie-talkies? >> Uh it it depends on what it is. So a lot of incidents that were were police or fire related we were we were communicating directly over the radio through you know dispatch and things like that potentially

**[10:18]** and and for fire it would be directly on the radio system. So depending on what we were responding to we had radios for for those proper incidents. um you know and and then from there too um you know um programs like FlytBase, they bring more awareness into things like this because you know if if we get a call to a scene, we can start streaming this data to the computers and to the cell phones and to the tablets to the to everybody responding to this so they can kind of get a gauge for what they're what they're stepping into. So, you know, having all of those pieces together kind of it it does make it seem to to flow very well. You know, what what seems like I I would classify as organized chaos. >> Um >> like Okay. So let's I mean it's it's really good to know the word organized chaos really really just puts it into

**[11:19]** summarizes it. Um so let's just um move one step uh back in the workflow. Um for DFR operations generally uh the operation starts as soon as you get an alert right it would be either through some inte some some integration that you have done or it could be through some call or something. So before the drone is even airborne like in your opinion and based on all your experiences how should a DFR mission ideally be created? I mean from an operator's point of view which integrations do you think genuinely make a difference and helps you to respond faster and what ones are and if there are any that you know sound useful but like seems useful but don't really matter um in when put into practical use uh that would also be a great learning to have. >> Sure. Um, [sighs and gasps] it's it's I would say there is no way to plan a mission because

**[12:19]** nothing that you're responding to in in a DFR related realm is is is pre-planned. So, where I've seen success and and I see things starting to change and grow is is adding alarm responses and things like that. So, you know, I've been working with multiple different police and fire agencies across across the US and and within FlytBase, we're working on integrating into different CAD systems. So, you know, as a call comes in, depending on what that call is, it could be something, you know, that that doesn't necessarily need a response, but, you know, then things like a motor vehicle accident, alarms going off for a possible structure fire, having that alarm where, you know, the alarm comes in through dispatch and and they can uh launch that drone to the to the GPS coordinates that are pulled from CAD and go to that site and do a standoff and just kind of circle the do a point of interest circle around the site. you know, that sort of information is key because if that drone, you know, in talking about some of these drones, average launch time is under

**[13:21]** 15 seconds. Um, you know, with no obstructions, they're getting they're getting on site within within 1 and a half to we'll say 3 and 1/2 minutes, depending on how far away it is. You know, um, even with lights and sirens, you know, police and fire still need to be cautious going through intersections and all of these things. So something that could take a drone a minute to get there could take realistically 3 to 5 to 8 minutes to to to arrive on scene. You know, every second counts when we're talking about fire, you know, life, everything. So, you know, it's the the ability to take those, you know, and and you know, make it so that they can launch and get eyes on scene and send that data to the first responders on the way. you know, all of that information is critical to do we need to continue to respond faster and other things. So, um, you know, we've had incidents where, uh, we had one of these locally where we had an incident come in where somebody called the police because they they said

**[14:22]** there were, uh, people fighting in the park with swords. So, you know, your normal response would be police are are going to be heading over there in a hurry. um you know, mentally preparing for somebody with a sword. You know, what do you do there? You know, how do you mentally prepare for that? Um thankfully the drone got there first. It was kids uh laring, so playing with foam swords and all of that stuff. So, you know, we were able to see that with the drone and get on the radio and tell them, "Hey, slow the response." So, a few of the officers broke off because it was just kids. And one of them continued on, but slowed his approach and got out and approached the kids in a very friendly manner, you know. So that's the sort of thing where if the drone didn't get there, you've got you've got four or five guys who are going, assuming that there are people with swords in the park. So it it helps to deescalate situations that you kind of don't think about on a day-to-day basis. >> I mean, yeah. I mean um we always think about getting there faster, getting there

**[15:23]** in the right state of mind, but we never think about the scenarios where it might be a possible false alarm and it might actually be depleting resources from a team that could actually benefit from knowing that beforehand. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> So um we have talked about your experiences public safety and like DFR. Um uh you have also worked with a lot of high value residential communities where the environment and the missions are quite different. I mean the nature in itself becomes different. So like what worked like were there any lessons from the from your DFR experiences that directly translated into the um let's say security at residential areas or was it a completely different game there? I would say overall pretty much everything that I experienced and did working with with um public safety over over six years um directly um it it all kind of directly correlates you know private security

**[16:26]** um um high-end residential communities all have the same thing you know that there's the possibility of theft people are constantly sneaking in you know so so one of the major things we get in some of the the higherend residential communities is they call them gate crashers where a known person who who lives in the community drives up, the gate opens for them automatically. Well, somebody tailgates them and just come straight in behind them. Well, you know, then from there they can drive off into the community in different ways and and you've got um security on the ground trying to then locate them. Well, we've been having this happen and and we've uh deployed more and more docks across these these locations. So, you know, um two weeks ago they had a gate crasher at one of the communities. Um somebody, you know, the the security guard at the front calls it in and within a minute and a half they had the car located on the on the drone. You know, used the used the FlytBase to to track the drone with the tracker and just keep it on, got their guys directly to it and and escorted him out. You know, they have very strict procedures to follow.

**[17:30]** So, so there's one instance where it's it's very similar to, you know, if if somebody were to leave the scene of an accident, any number of things. Um, you know, and and then two, the next one is people scaling fences and and jumping over and trying to get in that way and and then um flying drones is another one that that we're seeing. So, you know, having FlytBase integrate with some of our our uh detect and avoid equipment partners and all of that. It's it's all in one ecosystem. So it all kind of fits together. You know, overall at the end of the day, private security and public safety in different ways are doing the same thing just on different scales. H um I mean yeah that makes sense but um there would also be scenarios where it would be different right for example in um case like in DFR you are responding to something that has already happened but in private security apart from responding uh I think you're also patrolling the res area right you are uh ensuring like

**[18:30]** patrolling looking um where the incident has happened so there the even the start of the event itself differs. Uh so like any uh yeah so what are your thoughts there? I mean uh when you are set like when when you're setting up these petrols um what um what do you think is the uh operational context that you need to be able to set such uh efficient petrols and you think makes a difference in a good private security program? >> Um I mean it's hard to say. It's a lot of it's going to come down to experience. You know, there there's a lot of things that I picked up flying for for uh public safety, both police and fire that, you know, that everything that I learned, you know, and then working with these security firms and and all of this, you know, there's things that I'm able to teach them that I I didn't really wouldn't have thought about before that. So, it's it's kind of tough. You know, it's it overall it depends on what you're looking for. Some of it's proactive and some of it's

**[19:32]** reactive. So, you know, things like this where you've get an event where there's thousands, tens of thousands of people that come into into a location, whether that's a a private residential area um for a golf tournament or a large scale race event that's bringing, you know, more people into the city than the city actually has residents and things like that. So, it it helps on multiple different levels. One, it gives you just awareness of how big the crowd kind of is. Um if the roads are backed up again, traffic control is a big one. Um you know, with things like this after the events, it gets pretty rowdy, you know, after 11:00, 12:00 at night. And and so the police will just be out flying the drone, keeping an eye on things, checking for for barbecue fires and are things out of control or people fighting. So there's that, but then there's the reactive side where there is a fire, there is an incident, there was an accident. So, you know, o overall it's it's very fluid. Nothing that you're going to do is is going to be the same every day. You know,

**[20:35]** something new, you're going to learn something new every day. Um, no matter how much you think you're you're an expert in the field, >> okay? And um when you let's when you go to uh let's say when there are new clients with uh new sites, new private sec residential sites um like um are there things that you like um you you have to you would have to start your operations from scratch again, right? Deploying the doc, setting up the integration, setting up the software. Are there things that you wish could just directly come out of the box that would have been like okay these 10 steps I know are applied on like on majority of the situations it would be really great if these 10 steps if these 10 things were already set up so that I can go and like work on the next set of problems >> honestly I don't know um you know because because every every

**[21:35]** customer every client I talk to whether that's public safety for search and rescue to you know just a private entity uh a a person wanting to fly for himself you know things like that um each one is different each one is unique so to to say I need all of this done well that might only apply to 5% of what I do so it's you know it it's it's I guess what would help is is you know if there was more knowledge out there of of success stories of drones you know unfortunately you know with with news and everything. We we we tend to hear the the negative on a routine basis, but you know, things like rescues and and how they're used on a day-to-day basis and and how they they directly affect and support the lives of public safety, I wish more people realized and knew about because it, you know, each I might talk to a client and and you know, the the person who has reached out to me is is all in on drones, but you know, whether it's their command staff or a

**[22:37]** residential community has an HOA, you know, we then have to to show them and prove to them what the use case is and and and it's hard to do because each place is is different. But, you know, with a lot of the different use cases I've I've had over the years, I've been able to help. And, you know, for incidents like this where where you've got thousands of people, you know, my my hometown once a year we bring in an event that we've got about 18,000 people in our city and and this event will bring in 60 to 100,000 people over 4 days. Um, you know, and it it's it's a lot to organize and and deal with. And and one of the big success stories, the first year we had our dock system. So, in 2023, we installed our DJI Doc Ones um um here and and then had that event and uh a a little I think he was a six or a seven-year-old boy got separated from his mother, you know, got the description on the radio. We had the drone in the air. We ended up locating the kid with the drone, keeping eyes on him. The the police were able to

**[23:38]** watch the feed and and went up to him and asked him his name. And, you know, it's it's something that could have turned into, you know, real panic. We were able to to you know get eyes on that kid after launching the drone within five minutes. >> I mean your point about bringing more awareness to the general community really hits because uh I have also experienced this um now even now when the drone technology is rapidly innovating rapidly moving so fast and has actually proved itself way back. Even then there's a small mistrust with the first time first time customers first time community uh and they want to go and revert back to their traditional ways traditional way of doing things. So I mean in your um which brings me to a question that I was planning to ask you later but a good segue. Um in your experience um what what is the concrete like what is the best thing that has helped you um establish trust with the people

**[24:41]** who are you know doubtful who are like okay we'll just deploy one and see how it goes. We don't know if it's going to work or not. What are the core things that you did that actually helped them uh see value in it and then make them realize oh this is now this is something that we can't live without. We need this in our day-to-day life. Yeah. Um, use cases is number one. I mean, if if if you have the data to show, you know, especially in in your area, what what and how it can directly benefit you. Um, you know, to to go back when I started our our DFR program uh here in my city. Um, I went to our our mayor and our city council and and at at the first pitch of talking about everything, it was a unanimous no. I was told no from seven counselors. um you know so so I I didn't take that as a as a defeat. I went and I prepared, you know, a a a long slideshow and a bunch of data and and talked to the police and the fire chief and and pulled data that we could share and and I went back in and and I

**[25:46]** and I rem with everybody and you know uh uh gave my 15minute presentation of real life use cases of saving children and and and doing this and fires and you know the one fire that you had shown a little bit back before um was was in a an apartment building, all adjoining other buildings, all the damage was contained to the one building because we were able to get there quick enough. That one right there. So, if you go back um go back one more um uh nope, not sorry, the other way. Um that one right there. So, that fire was contained into that building. It didn't spread to the other buildings because we were able to get there and see that that's where it had started. And that's actually the one where we flew the little drone in to see where the fire started. So, we flew the drone in through that hole right there to go in and inspect where the fire had started. So, you know, I I sat with them and and gave this and showed them real life use cases and and you know, my it it's it's at the end of it, I got a unanimous yes.

**[26:48]** I all of them said yes. They said we can't live without this. And it and it turned into a into a real DFR, a real big program. And you know, we weren't we weren't asking for a lot of money, but you know, at the end of the day, when you go in and you show these things, you know, my my argument to them is is if we can save one life, one, is there an amount of money that we can put on that? Is there a value? No. Drones are here. They're here to help. Let's let's help save lives. Let's help keep the public safe and let and let's help get our guys home safely. as well. >> I mean this really puts it into perspective the importance of such use cases. The importance of um um having all the right data that you want to show um which brings which brings me to my next question um um on on the uh data um aspect only. um like preparing these case studies uh after an incident has happened would require

**[27:52]** a would require a lot of different data sources right it's not just drone footage you you would need um I don't know you might need body cam footage you might need u reports from like um real life accounts from your pilots real life comments from your ground team etc etc how do you compile all that what like is it I'm pretty sure it's not easy it. >> It's not easy. Um, having a having a good, you know, software like Flight Base to help keep track of your flight logs and and, you know, being able to type in notes and things like that. Um, you know, and then having integrations with other systems, being able to integrate and pull notes from maybe a CAD system or send our data over there. So, you know, there's a lot of different areas unfortunately, especially in public safety because the officers need to fill out things and police and fire and all of the reports are going to different agencies within the state and federal and all of that. So, you know, a way to to work and have all of that flow together, I guess, would be a a big help in that area because there are too many

**[28:57]** locations with redundant data um just because nobody's working directly together. So, you know, the next big thing that I would like to see in the industry is more vendors, more partners willing to open openly integrate with other vendors. Don't always assume that they're the enemy cuz not everybody's the enemy. You know, it's at the end of the day, if we all have the same goal of of again keeping our people safe and rescuing, you know, one person, we should be working together. It shouldn't be a it shouldn't be a fight against each other at the end of the day. cuz cuz to me you're not thinking the common goal here which is safety. >> Yeah. Um I mean I I think that um enhancement and uh like enhancement in any one area uplifts the whole drone industry together and makes it easier for everybody to go towards a better future. So yeah that's I think we are short on time. So we'll just go towards some uh Q& uh

**[29:58]** with some questions we have from uh people just stop my screen. Okay, so um for organizations that already have guards and cameras, what specifically did the drone add that those existing layers couldn't cover? I think you have already answered that in part, but if you can just summarize it quickly. >> Yeah, absolutely. I mean, guards, cameras, security, all they can do is see things from the ground. So, at the end of the day, you're going to have blind spots. There's going to be areas you can't see. Um, you know, the the guard, whether it's in a private community or not, still has to abide by speed limits and safety to get there. The drone can get there immediately, you know, and then with different layers of thermal, you can search for people. Um, speakers and spotlights, you can light up the scene. You can you can tell people they're trespassing. Any number of things. Um, you know, and and something we didn't touch on is some of these drones in some of these areas, um, you know, could drop systems out there where they could have a a

**[31:00]** self-inflating, um, you know, flotation device or a med pack or different things. So, any number of those can assist with, you know, private security and police and and everything else. >> Okay. Um, how many sites can one remote operation center manage sim simultaneously with your setup? I guess it depends on how many people you have. Um, you know, we can we have many different pilots for different things and and whether you're talking private or or public. And so, you know, a a site can can honestly get started um fairly inexpensively if they just if they had a person and a drone and they could start collecting some data, little wins, little different things. And then they'll grow and you get you get uh buyin from from the command staff and and and the stakeholders to say, "Well, drones are useful. Let's put more money there. Let's train more pilots. It's, you know, so, so little things then grow into bigger ones and it's it's easier to manage, you know, across different sites and platforms as

**[32:01]** your team grows. >> Okay. Um, for the client, what does the day-to-day experience look like? Do they interact with UT's team directly or do they just get alerts and reports? >> Um, it it depends on what it is, you know. Um, right now we have clients that that we fly for on dayto-day and they don't interact with us and unless there's something to that that that they request or or need to ask us. Otherwise, you know, if we've got pre-existing contracts, we collect data from here to here. The data just gets collected. We process it. um you know there's there's interaction with the UVT team when we're you know site contacts and and do we have to maintenance different things but you know we can be we can be as as hands-on as you want to be like we can we can jump in and we can install secure waiverss fully operate for you um or we can do the same and and hand it over to you and and we're there as a resource on the back end. So um either way we're here to help.

**[33:05]** And I think we'll just take last one. All the other there [laughter] are a lot of questions. Uh um like feel free uh you can later maybe join breakout room and all the people whose questions were not asked feel free to contact and connect with Chris in the breakout room. So we'll just take the last question which is okay uh for public safety agencies that already own DJI drones but fly them manually. What does the transition to dog based remote operations look like? How much retraining does it take? >> Um, so I mean that's a great question because that's exactly how we transitioned my agency here. We started out with, you know, tactical drones and morphed into dockbased solutions. So overall the training is is really not too bad. You know, if if you've got a tactical drone and you're deploying it, um, you know, you're you're flying within the pilot app and and streaming to FlytBase. Um, you know, when you get to FlytBase behind the screen and you use an Xbox controller, the controls are so familiar and similar to the RC that that um if if you've had, you know,

**[34:09]** really just a little bit of experience with a tactical deployed drone, then picking up the RC and flying it behind the screen um is just as easy. It doesn't take much retraining. It's just it's at that point training um for BV loss operations, you know. also make sure that they're following the laws and the regulations there. But from a from a deployment side of things, it it was a fairly seamless transition once it was operational. >> Okay. Um thanks a lot Chris for uh joining us. Any um any closing remarks for the people who have joined? U maybe you can touch upon where you see uh with the technology evolving and the way the adoption is also evolving. How do you see the drone industry and your own operations evolving? And where do you see the where where do you see that we that people who are technological providers who are helping you guys uh like and like trying to provide uh giving like trying to provide you uh things that can make your work easier? Where do you think that uh we should focus?

**[35:14]** Um, I I guess I would touch back on, you know, just o overall general communal awareness of of drones and on on how they're they're used for good and and all of that. So, I mean, that that's a that's a big one. Um, from there, it's just getting more busy. You know, more and more places are looking for drones for for different things and and it's for all the reasons we touched on. You can get there quicker. You get situational awareness. You you know, you can you can deescalate a situation if you need to. So, I I just see it continuing to grow and and I think the best thing for the drone community as a whole to do is is is work together because if we all work together, you know, then then there's just no stopping us. I think, you know, we can, you know, try to solve the the problems and and help out in different areas that that you don't think about, you know, and that's it. At the end of the day, there's every person has a different point of view and a different perspective. So, they're all bringing in some sort of expertise at the end of the day. you know, hopefully it can more be to work together and less fingerpointing.

**[36:17]** >> Okay, so um thank you Chris. Thank you guys for joining us. Feel free to connect with Chris in the breakout rooms, breakout sessions and yes there are a lot of exciting sessions happening. Um you can go to the agenda tab and see and yeah see you there. >> Thank you. Thank you so much for